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Navigating Challenges in Distressed Companies with Becki DeGraw | Wilson Sonsini Startup Legal Basics

Todays show: Wilson Sonsini Partner Becki DeGraw joins Jason on the latest edition of Startup Legal Basics! In this episode, they break down challenges in distressed companies(1:04), pay-to-play scenarios (2:31), the importance of a market check in financing (9:25), and high-profile legal and ethica

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Jason Calacanis HostBecky DeGras Guest

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Executive Summary: The conversation focuses on distressed startup governance: why VCs and directors sometimes exit struggling boards, how pay-to-play and recapitalizations work, and why rigorous process documentation is essential to reduce fiduciary risk. Becky DeGras emphasizes that when companies are near failure, decisions become more complex, costly, and legally scrutinized, making market checks, board minutes, and signed acknowledgments critical—especially if the company later turns around and attracts lawsuits.

Main Topics: Distressed company governance (Priority: 5/5): The speakers discuss what happens when a startup is clearly struggling and the board must manage a likely hard landing, including increased scrutiny on directors and officers. Why investors leave the board (Priority: 4/5): VCs may resign after writing an investment down to zero because continued board service becomes a liability and consumes time without upside. Pay-to-play financings and down rounds (Priority: 5/5): They explain how insiders are pressured to participate in rescue financings, often under threat of converting preferred stock to common if they do not invest. Process as legal protection (Priority: 5/5): The transcript repeatedly stresses documenting outreach, offers, objections, and board decisions to reduce future litigation risk. Market checks and proving last-resort financing (Priority: 4/5): Becky recommends genuine outreach to outside investors, ideally with written records, to show insider-led financing was the only realistic option. Director dissent and fiduciary duty (Priority: 4/5): Jason describes voting against transactions he views as unfair, highlighting the importance of formal dissent and clean board records when governance issues arise. Ethics, reckless behavior, and red flags (Priority: 3/5): The discussion ends by warning that people who act recklessly or dishonestly in business often repeat that behavior, with crypto examples used as cautionary tales.

Key Arguments: Distressed startups face higher legal and operational complexity, so board actions are scrutinized more heavily than in normal times. Insider-led rescue rounds tend to be more punitive and dilutive because they occur when the company has few alternatives. Pay-to-play structures are used to force existing investors to participate, typically by threatening conversion of preferred shares to common. A real market check is essential evidence that the financing was a genuine last-resort option rather than self-dealing. Detailed board minutes, investor outreach records, and signed acknowledgments can materially reduce litigation exposure. If a turnaround succeeds, that success can increase legal risk because disappointed stockholders may sue once there is value to recover. Directors should formally dissent when they believe a transaction is unfair, especially when fiduciary or LP obligations may later be questioned. Reckless or unethical behavior in startup governance is often a warning sign of broader misconduct and future failures.

Data Points: Distress window: Final six months - Jason frames the discussion around companies in their last meaningful runway period before likely failure. Investor outreach example: 30 investors - Becky recommends documenting outreach to a broad set of outside investors during a market check. Follow-up meetings example: 10 meetings - She describes a process where 30 investors were contacted and 10 agreed to meetings. Second meetings example: 4 second meetings - From those 10 meetings, four moved to a second conversation before declining. Prior overhang example: $10 million - Jason uses a hypothetical company with $10 million of existing overhang on the cap table. Cap table overhang example: 40% of the cap table - He states that the $10 million represented 40% of the company in the example. New money example: $1 million - Jason discusses a hypothetical white-knight investor putting in $1 million to rescue the business. Spinout example ownership: 20% to existing investors / 15% new investors / 5% previous investors - He describes a proposed spinout cap table structure in which founders keep 80%, new investors get 15%, and prior investors get 5%. Director ownership example: 6% - Jason says his fund owned 6% when considering whether to oppose a transaction. Ownership threshold example: 80% - He references a situation where 80% approval was needed for the transaction to pass. Legal fee example: $1 million - He recounts a crypto-related formation/structuring matter where the legal fee was quoted at $1 million.

Pivotal Quotes: "If I've written it off and me staying on is pure liability, I think that's something to weigh." — Becky DeGras: On why VCs and directors sometimes resign from distressed company boards. "Make it the best process possible." — Becky DeGras: Her core advice for managing rescue financings and down rounds to reduce litigation risk. "The only people that were coming to the table were our insiders. We couldn't attract it from anybody else." — Becky DeGras: Explaining why documenting a market check matters in a last-resort insider financing.

Implications: For founders, boards, and investors, distress situations demand disciplined process, exhaustive documentation, and early consideration of sale or shutdown. Poor governance can create long-tail litigation risk even if a turnaround succeeds.

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