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SEC Commissioner Hester Peirce on Regulation In Crypto, SPACs, and Money Market Funds

SEC Commissioner Hester Peirce joins Jack Farley to share her views on crypto regulation and the SEC’s purview of it. Filmed on September 12 at Blockworks’ Permissionless in Austin, Texas. Follow Jack Farley on Twitter https://twitter.com/JackFarley96 Follow Forward Guidance on Twitter https://twitt

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Executive Summary: SEC Commissioner Hester Peirce outlined a nuanced, rules-based approach to crypto and other markets: the SEC should be more legally precise, provide earlier guidance, and focus on disclosure and fraud rather than assuming all tokens are securities. She also discussed SPACs, money market reform, and the limits of SEC jurisdiction, emphasizing that Congress—not the SEC alone—must decide many crypto and stablecoin policy questions.

Main Topics: SEC posture toward crypto (Priority: 5/5): Peirce said the SEC is highly active on crypto, mostly through enforcement, while offering comparatively less clear regulatory guidance. She argued the agency should have provided earlier direction and should engage publicly to help projects understand compliance paths. What counts as a security under Howey (Priority: 5/5): She explained the broad U.S. definition of a security and the Howey test, emphasizing that tokens are not automatically securities; rather, the token plus the surrounding promises and facts determine whether a securities transaction exists. Transparency, disclosure, and decentralization (Priority: 4/5): Peirce argued the SEC’s disclosure framework can be useful in crypto, but must be adapted to blockchain realities. She stressed that truly decentralized systems may reduce information asymmetry, while some projects incorrectly claim decentralization. SEC jurisdiction and congressional role (Priority: 5/5): She drew a firm line around SEC authority: the SEC regulates securities and securities transactions, not all crypto activity. Broader questions about crypto oversight, stablecoins, or a new regulator belong to Congress. Exchange rule proposal and decentralized platforms (Priority: 4/5): Peirce criticized the SEC’s exchange re-proposal as potentially forcing decentralization into centralization, pushing activity offshore, or shutting it down. She warned against inserting intermediaries where none exist in peer-to-protocol systems. SPACs and money market fund reforms (Priority: 3/5): She discussed SPAC regulation as overly burdensome and noted that public company status carries heavy obligations regardless of listing route. On money market reform, she favored regulatory optionality and heterogeneity over one-size-fits-all structures.

Key Arguments: The SEC is unusually active right now, and if all rulemakings are adopted they could fundamentally change market structure. Crypto regulation would have been better served by earlier SEC guidance and more public, industry-wide discussion. Tokens themselves are not automatically securities; the key question is whether the token is sold as part of an investment contract with surrounding promises. The Howey test focuses on investment of money, expectation of profits, and reliance on the efforts of others; facts and circumstances matter. A token can be a security if designed with security-like features or sold with profit-sharing promises; conversely, a non-security token can be sold in a securities offering. The SEC should not force a centralized intermediary into peer-to-peer or protocol-based activity where none exists. Many crypto participants are not lawless actors but confused by ambiguous regulation; clear rules would make it easier to identify true bad actors. The SEC cannot regulate everything in crypto because its jurisdiction is limited to securities; Congress decides whether another agency or new framework should apply. SPACs should be judged by disclosure quality, not the SEC’s view of their investment merits, though public-company obligations remain significant. Money market reforms should preserve flexibility and diversity in financial system design to improve resilience during shocks.

Data Points: SEC tenure referenced: Since 2018 - Peirce said she has been at the SEC since 2018 and wished earlier guidance had been provided during that time. SEC commissioners: 5 - The interview framed Peirce as one of five SEC commissioners. Howey test elements: 3 - Peirce described the test as investment of money, expectation of profits, and reliance on the efforts of others. Crypto-focused SEC rule proposals mentioned: 3 - She cited custody for investment advisers, best execution for broker-dealers, and redefining exchange as proposals affecting crypto. Stablecoin rule status: No current bills would place stablecoins within SEC remit - Peirce said Congress is considering stablecoins, but existing bills she referenced would not put them under the SEC at the moment. Money market reference price: $1 peg - The discussion referenced money market funds being designed to stay at a dollar. SPAC market timing: Late 2020 and 2021 - Peirce was asked about the SPAC boom during this period and subsequent poor investor outcomes.

Pivotal Quotes: "if they're all adopted, we'll change pretty fundamentally the way our markets work" — Commissioner Hester Peirce: On the scale and potential impact of current SEC rulemakings. "you either have to centralize, you have to get out of the United States, or you have to shut down" — Commissioner Hester Peirce: Her critique of the SEC’s exchange re-proposal and its effect on decentralized crypto activity. "the token along with the promises that may come with it" — Commissioner Hester Peirce: Her explanation of how to analyze whether a crypto asset is part of a securities transaction.

Implications: For crypto builders and investors, the message is to expect stricter scrutiny but also demand clearer rules. Peirce’s views suggest future regulation should distinguish fraud from experimentation, preserve decentralization where real, and rely on Congress for broader market-structure decisions.

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