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Tesla Model 3 first drive, iPhone leaks, and a bluetooth salt shaker

We are without Nilay Patel on The Vergecast this week, so Dieter Bohn and Paul Miller step up to host with some very special guests: transportation editor Tamara Warren, and tech editor Natt Garun. Tamara was one of the few people who got to test drive the Tesla Model 3 last week, so she brings her

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Executive Summary: The episode centers on two major product stories: Tamara Warren’s first-hand impressions of the Tesla Model 3 launch/handoff event and a deep dive into an iPhone firmware leak revealing major changes to Apple’s next flagship phone. The hosts also discuss Verge video projects, Apple’s business strategy, and assorted gadget/news lightning-round items, emphasizing how both Tesla and Apple are reshaping expectations through design, software, and premium positioning.

Main Topics: Tesla Model 3 first-drive impressions and production skepticism: Tamara Warren describes driving the Model 3 and argues it feels like entry-level luxury with a minimalist, software-centric cabin. The hosts debate whether Tesla can actually scale manufacturing to hundreds of thousands of cars while maintaining quality and service. Tesla as a disruptive, trendsetting brand: The discussion frames Tesla less as a conventional mass-market automaker and more as a company that influences the industry through cool factor, electrification, and autopilot/autonomy ambitions, even if its promises take longer to materialize. Apple iPhone firmware leak and the future flagship design: The hosts unpack the leaked HomePod firmware and the evidence it revealed about the next iPhone: edge-to-edge display, a notch, no home button, face unlock, and a more premium, expensive model positioned above the regular iPhone line. Software-first design and the changing role of hardware: Both Tesla and Apple are used as examples of products becoming more software dependent, with simplified interfaces, fewer physical controls, and a future where updates, sensors, and UI matter as much as the hardware shell. Next Level video series and emerging tech prototypes: Lauren Good discusses the end of the first season of Next Level and the Avogant light-field headset prototype, highlighting mixed reality, depth perception, and the challenge of turning research prototypes into consumer products. Lightning round: odd hardware and broader Apple updates: The back half of the show covers iPad sales improvement, Fitbit’s smartwatch plans, Arcade Fire’s fidget spinner album stunt, the Red Hydrogen phone, and Samsung Note 8 rumors, using them to illustrate the tech industry’s obsession with spectacle and iteration.

Key Arguments: Tesla’s Model 3 feels good to drive and looks like genuine entry-level luxury, but that does not prove Tesla can manufacture it reliably at scale. Tesla’s biggest achievement may be cultural and industrial disruption rather than becoming the world’s largest automaker. The Model 3’s minimalist interior and screen-centric controls suggest a car designed with autonomy in mind. Apple appears to be reserving the most radical iPhone redesign for a higher-priced, premium tier rather than the standard model. The iPhone leak indicates Apple is moving toward facial recognition, gesture/UI changes, and a notch-based full-screen design. Software and service models will matter more as cars and phones become more complex, connected, and update-driven. Prototype tech like light-field AR/MR is compelling but still far from mass-market readiness because of size, field of view, battery, and content challenges.

Data Points: Model 3 starting price: $35,000 - The base price referenced repeatedly for the Tesla Model 3. Tesla Model 3 initial deliveries: First customer handoff to employees - The event was framed as a handoff/celebration rather than a full launch. Tesla Model 3 screen size: 15-inch screen - Tamara describes the interior as having a single large touchscreen to the right. Tesla production target: 500,000 cars - The hosts discuss Tesla’s ambitious manufacturing goal and whether it is realistic. Model 3 initial quality concern: 5th car vs. 499,000th car - Tamara argues early production and late-scale production may differ significantly in quality. iPhone screen resolution: 3X resolution - Nat references the firmware leak suggesting a new display mode and likely OLED panel. HomePod firmware leak: iOS build embedded in HomePod firmware - The leaked firmware exposed unreleased iPhone details because HomePod runs an iOS-based system. Face ID/face recognition codes: Multiple facial-expression tags - Developers found references such as mouth smile, mouth pucker, mouth funnel, and mouth frown. Avogant headset field of view: 45 degrees per eye - Lauren Good gives the optical field-of-view figure for the light-field prototype. Apple iPad sales change: 15% increase - Nat says Apple sold more iPads this quarter, contributing to profitability. iPad profitability streak: First profitable quarter in 10–14 quarters - The hosts note the iPad business had not been profitable for many quarters before this rebound. Tesla supercharger expansion: Double the number of superchargers - Tamara cites Tesla’s promise to significantly expand charging infrastructure. Watered-down production complexity: Two main Model 3 variants - The conversation notes the Model 3 has relatively few configuration options compared with many cars.

Pivotal Quotes: "It’s the shakeup car." — Tamara Warren: Tamara summarizes Tesla Model 3’s role as a disruptive product rather than just a conventional vehicle. "I think it’s a trendsetting company." — Tamara Warren: She argues Tesla’s real power is cultural and industrial influence, not just sales volume. "I will just say the obvious thing in that it looks like an Android phone." — Nat Garan: Nat reacts to the leaked iPhone screen render and its notch-based design.

Implications: The episode suggests consumer tech is moving toward premium, software-led devices with fewer physical controls and more dependency on infrastructure, services, and updates. Tesla and Apple may reshape their industries most through influence and design paradigms, not immediate scale.

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