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The Bull Market In Crap Is Over | Kevin Muir

Kevin Muir, author of The Macro Tourist, joins Forward Guidance to make sense of the recent choppiness in stocks, commodities, and crypto. In conversation with Jack Farley, Muir shares: Why he is shorting Bitcoin and buying gold Why the bear market in speculative stocks (what he calls “crap”) will l

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Executive Summary: Kevin Muir argues that crypto, especially Bitcoin, is increasingly vulnerable to a leverage-driven unwind, making long gold/short Bitcoin attractive. He sees speculative growth stocks already in a bear market, expects a 2022 rotation toward real-economy and value stocks, and believes inflation is not temporary because fiscal and private credit creation can still re-accelerate nominal growth.

Main Topics: Gold long / Bitcoin short as a relative-value trade (Priority: 5/5): Muir explains why he prefers long gold versus short Bitcoin: gold benefits from central bank demand, inflation fears, and year-end selling pressure, while Bitcoin faces leverage risk and potential for a large drawdown. Crypto leverage, stablecoins, and systemic fragility (Priority: 5/5): He warns that the crypto ecosystem is increasingly levered through exchanges and stablecoins like Tether, likening the structure to private money creation without a strong backstop and drawing parallels to historical banking panics. Speculative asset bear market (Priority: 4/5): Muir says the bear market has already begun in meme stocks, ARK-like growth names, SPACs, and other 'crap' assets, with price action breaking lower and rallies getting sold. 2022 rotation from FANG to real-economy stocks (Priority: 4/5): He expects a violent internal rotation out of mega-cap tech into banks, energy, industrials, and insurers, driven by overowned FANGs and underowned cyclicals rather than a broad market collapse. Bond market mispricing inflation and growth (Priority: 5/5): Despite hot CPI, he argues bond investors are underestimating fiscal responsiveness and overestimating how low the terminal Fed funds rate will be, which could eventually force yields higher. Inflation as a secular regime shift (Priority: 5/5): Muir believes the post-COVID policy environment has shown governments can fill demand gaps with fiscal policy, making inflation more likely over time and less likely to revert to the old low-inflation regime.

Key Arguments: Bitcoin is a 100-vol asset with repeated historical 80% drawdowns, so a major correction is plausible again. The crypto system appears increasingly leveraged through stablecoins and exchange credit, which can amplify forced liquidations. Gold should outperform Bitcoin because it has millennia of trust, likely benefits from central bank buying, and is less exposed to speculative leverage. Speculative assets like meme stocks, SPACs, and pandemic-era growth names are already in a bear market and likely continue lower. The market is crowded in the biggest tech winners, making them vulnerable to a painful rotation into smaller real-economy sectors. Bond investors may be assuming too-low terminal rates because high debt levels will cause the economy to roll over quickly, but fiscal policy can offset weakness. Inflation is not simply a temporary QE story; fiscal spending and private borrowing can still create nominal growth, especially with consumer balance sheets improving. The COVID-era fiscal response proved governments can prevent deflation, so future downturns are more likely to be met with renewed stimulus and inflation risk.

Data Points: Bitcoin decline history: 3 declines of 80% or more over the last decade - Used to argue that another large crypto drawdown is normal rather than impossible. Crypto market size: About $3 trillion - Muir references the overall crypto asset base as having grown very large relative to traditional markets. Federal Reserve balance sheet comparison: Crypto market value is almost a third of the Fed's balance sheet - He uses this comparison to highlight the scale of crypto speculation. Tether/ Tusk Money Market Fund size: $70 billion - He cites this as an example of a large stablecoin-like credit system that worries him. MicroStrategy debt outstanding: $2.2 billion - He discusses MSTR shorting as a way to express bearish Bitcoin views. COVID-era corporate issuance: Record year in 2020 - He notes corporations raised cash aggressively during the pandemic, strengthening balance sheets. Inflation print: 6.8% year-over-year - Referenced at the start as the highest inflation in 39 years and a key backdrop for the discussion. Stock drawdowns: 40%-90% falls - He points to Beyond Meat, Chegg, meme stocks, and other former winners as evidence of a speculative unwind. Bitcoin vol: 100 vol asset - He uses this to justify sizing and the likelihood of sharp short-term ripples higher. Historical bank contraction analogy: About 10,000 banks down to 5,000 within five years - He cites early-20th-century banking stress to explain how private credit without a backstop can contract violently.

Pivotal Quotes: "the bull market in crap is over" — Kevin Muir: His blunt characterization of meme stocks, speculative growth, and pandemic-era froth. "When everyone is scared of something, that's often the best time to do something" — Kevin Muir: He explains why he likes shorting Bitcoin and speculative assets when sentiment has turned very bearish. "we can create economic growth at any time" — Kevin Muir: His core macro thesis that fiscal policy can prevent deflation and keep inflation risk alive.

Implications: Listeners should expect continued pressure on speculative assets, a possible rebound in value/cyclicals, and renewed inflation risk if fiscal support returns. Muir’s view implies the biggest macro danger is not deflation, but a leverage unwind followed by policy-driven inflation.

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