The Memo by Howard Marks
The Memo by Howard Marks

The Insight: Conversations – European Credit at a Turning Point

The Insight: Conversations - European Credit at a Turning Point with Oaktree's Armen Panossian, Madelaine Jones, and Nael Khatoun

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Executive Summary: Oaktree’s credit discussion argues that European credit has shifted from bank-dominated lending to a more diverse, institutionally driven market led by private credit, loans, and bonds. Speakers say 2023 marked a recovery and spread tightening in Europe, but also a looming higher-for-longer rate challenge, valuation gaps, and sector/jurisdiction-specific risks. They see attractive opportunities in dislocation, quality credits, and CLO equity.

Main Topics: European Credit Market Structure (Priority: 5/5): The panel outlines the main financing channels in Europe: banks, syndicated loans, high-yield and investment-grade bonds, and private credit. They emphasize that Europe is still largely institutional, with far less retail participation than the U.S., especially in private credit. Market Recovery and Spread Tightening (Priority: 5/5): After a difficult prior year driven by Ukraine and the U.K. LDI shock, European credit recovered as pessimism eased, spreads tightened, and lenders regained confidence. Good-quality issuers found receptive capital markets, though often at higher coupons than in prior years. Macro Outlook: Higher for Longer and Delayed Stress (Priority: 5/5): Speakers argue that the effects of higher rates have not fully worked through yet. They expect stress, defaults, and refinancing pain to emerge over the next few quarters, especially as debt-heavy structures refinance at much higher borrowing costs. Sector Risk and Flight to Quality (Priority: 4/5): Private and liquid markets both show a strong bias toward resilient sectors such as healthcare, software, and business services. However, older vintages in these sectors can be vulnerable because they were levered aggressively and now face much higher interest expense. Valuations, Private Marks, and New Opportunities (Priority: 4/5): The panel highlights a disconnect between sticky private-market valuations and public-market pricing. That gap is creating opportunities in NAV finance, secondaries, and discounted credit entry points, particularly for investors who can buy quality assets below par or at lower multiples. Jurisdictional Complexity in Europe (Priority: 4/5): Europe is described as highly fragmented legally and politically. Country-specific issues such as Brexit, German macro weakness, and Italian lending rules materially affect underwriting and make pan-European credit investing difficult but opportunity-rich. Risks Not Widely Discussed: Sanctions, Labor, and AI (Priority: 3/5): Sanctions have become a core diligence item post-Ukraine, labor shortages remain a persistent concern, and AI/ML is viewed as a major future disruption with both winners and losers across industries and countries.

Key Arguments: Europe’s credit market has moved from bank dominance to a much more diverse system where private credit now fills a large share of financing needs. The recovery in European spreads reflected overly pessimistic assumptions about war and energy risk; as those fears eased, European credit tightened sharply. Even if recession has not yet appeared in consumer data, intermediary companies are de-stocking and cyclical sectors are already showing recession-like pressure. Because monetary policy tightening works with a lag, credit stress may appear 12-18 months after peak rates, meaning current resilience may be misleading. Higher borrowing costs are especially dangerous for highly levered companies that financed balance sheets during the easy-money era and did not hedge. European credit is generally viewed as higher quality than U.S. loan markets because leverage is lower and structures are less aggressive. Private equity and private credit face a valuation gap: public markets imply many private marks are too high, creating both refinancing friction and opportunity. NAV financing and credit secondaries are growing as LPs seek liquidity and fund-level leverage becomes more useful in a dislocated market. CLO equity can be attractive in dislocated periods because investors can buy loan assets at discounts and benefit from eventual recovery to par. Sanctions, labor shortages, and AI are major forward-looking risks that deserve more attention in diligence and strategic planning.

Data Points: Europe bank-led market mix 10 years ago: 80% bank-led, 20% other - Describing how European corporate lending used to be dominated by banks before private credit grew. Private credit transaction volume decline: 30%-40% down - Estimate of year-over-year private credit volume decline, reflecting flight to quality. U.S. vs Europe spread comparison: Europe widened to be worse than the U.S. at times, then tightened back toward parity - Speaker described spread compression after last year’s extreme pessimism about Europe. Private equity fund share-price discount to NAV: 30%-40% discount - Publicly listed private equity fund vehicles trading below reported NAV, suggesting private marks may be elevated. European restructuring frequency post-GFC: Only 12-15 true distress/control deals - Used to illustrate Europe’s relatively low restructuring frequency and banks’ preference for amend-and-extend. Loan market leverage example: 7 turns of leverage - Example of aggressive leverage on a healthcare name that now faces higher interest burden. Equity checks in private equity deals: 40% historically; now north of 50%, often 60%-70% in tech/healthcare - Shows how much more equity sponsors need to contribute under higher rate assumptions. CLO loan portfolio discount example: 5-point discount / 95 cents on the dollar - Illustration of buying loan portfolios below par and benefiting from recovery to par. European private credit fund universe: About 900 funds - Referenced as the scale of competition and market capacity in Europe. Default timing horizon: 25-26 - Speaker suggested substantial default uplift may not appear until 2025 or 2026.

Pivotal Quotes: "Hope is not a strategy." — Speaker (credit discussion participant): Commenting on highly levered companies waiting for rates to fall before refinancing. "It feels to me a little bit like a head fake or the calm before the storm." — Speaker (credit discussion participant): Describing the apparent resilience of markets and the risk of delayed credit stress. "This is actually a far more interesting time to invest in CLO equities than in balanced par markets." — Speaker (credit discussion participant): Arguing that dislocation and discounts create better entry points than stable, fully priced markets.

Implications: Listeners should expect continued opportunity in dislocated European credit, but also a delayed wave of stress as higher rates reset. The winners will be managers with deep underwriting, restructuring skill, and jurisdiction-specific expertise.

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