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The Virtual Real Estate Boom, plus Supersonic Travel — with Kathy Savitt

Scott shares his Pivot Miami interview with Kathy Savitt, the President and Chief Commercial Officer of Boom Technology. He also opens with his thoughts on why virtual real estate is going to be the Gamestop of 2022. Algebra of happiness: identifying problems and solutions. Learn more about your ad

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Executive Summary: The episode contrasts speculative enthusiasm for virtual real estate and crypto-like assets with a substantive interview on Boom Supersonic’s effort to revive commercial supersonic travel. The host argues that housing, stocks, and crypto have distorted wealth creation, while Boom’s Kathy Savitt explains how new materials, simulation, propulsion, and sustainability make a faster, cleaner aircraft commercially viable where Concorde failed.

Main Topics: Virtual real estate as a speculative asset (Priority: 5/5): The host argues metaverse land could become a major 2022 investment theme, combining meme-stock hype, crypto-style scarcity, and real-estate signaling/value creation. Housing inequality and generational wealth (Priority: 5/5): A long monologue frames housing as increasingly unaffordable, arguing first-time buyers and younger adults are being locked out of wealth creation and asset appreciation. Crypto, meme stocks, and the search for uncorrelated returns (Priority: 4/5): The episode claims the era of outsized returns in crypto and meme stocks is fading as markets become more correlated and speculative narratives weaken. Boom Supersonic’s mission and product vision (Priority: 5/5): Kathy Savitt describes Boom’s Overture aircraft as a mission-driven attempt to make the world more accessible by making time cheaper through faster commercial travel. Why supersonic travel is viable now (Priority: 5/5): Savitt explains that advances in computing, carbon composites, and propulsion address the Concorde’s old limitations in design, durability, cost, and noise. Business model, customers, and government support (Priority: 4/5): The discussion covers airline orders, state incentives, and U.S. government collaboration, showing the capital intensity and public-private nature of aerospace innovation. Environmental and operational concerns (Priority: 4/5): The interview addresses fuel burn, sustainable aviation fuel, airport noise, overwater supersonic routing, and the attempt to make supersonic travel practical and compliant.

Key Arguments: Housing has become so expensive that ownership is increasingly a privilege of the rich, leaving younger generations without a reliable path to wealth accumulation. Suppressing volatility through bailouts and easy money protects incumbents and worsens generational inequality. Crypto and meme stocks offered volatility and narrative-driven upside, but their correlation to broader markets limits their supposed independence. Virtual real estate may work because it combines the perceived safety and status of real estate with the speculative upside and scarcity logic of crypto. Boom argues supersonic travel failed before because technology, materials, and engines were not ready, not because the idea was inherently unworkable. Modern computing allows aircraft design to be iterated digitally at scale, avoiding the costly physical testing that constrained earlier aircraft programs. Using carbon composites and modern engines makes Overture more efficient, quieter, and potentially sustainable compared with Concorde. The market for time savings is large enough that business travelers are willing to pay materially more to halve travel time. Supersonic aviation is capital-intensive and long-dated, so it requires patient capital, government partnerships, and risk-sharing. The future of premium travel may include both commercial and government/exec-transport applications, with airlines already placing orders.

Data Points: Average home price increase in urban U.S. areas in 2021: More than 10% - Used to illustrate how housing affordability has worsened. Average home cost relative to household income 50 years ago: 2 years of income - Host contrasts historical affordability with today. Average home cost relative to household income today: 4 years of income - Used to emphasize the housing affordability crisis. Young adults living with parents: More than 50% - Cited as evidence of generational economic strain. Virtual real estate sales in 2021: More than $500 million - Shows the scale of metaverse land speculation. Projected virtual real estate sales in 2022: Double 2021 level - Analyst projection mentioned by the host. Sandbox land purchase near Snoop Dogg: $450,000 - Example of premium pricing for metaverse location/status. Republic Realm virtual land purchase: $4.3 million - Largest virtual land purchase in history at the time. Boom Overture speed: Mach 1.7 - Target supersonic cruise speed over water. Boom overland speed: Mach 0.94 - Subsonic over land to comply with noise/regulatory constraints. Computing used in aircraft design: 100 million core hours - Savitt says Boom uses massive simulation to optimize aerodynamics. Temperature change on Concorde fuselage: About 150 degrees - Explains why old materials were limiting at supersonic speeds. Concorde size change in flight: Up to a foot - Illustrates thermal expansion/contraction issue. Boom order book: 70 aircraft - Current orders and options discussed during the interview. United Airlines commitment: 15 full orders + 35 options - United is described as Boom’s first full-order customer. Japan Airlines commitment: 20 options - Supports trans-Pacific route strategy. North Carolina state support: In excess of $200 million - Risk-sharing/incentives tied to the Greensboro assembly line. Equity raised by Boom: About $300 million - Capital already raised by the company. Equity share of total program: 15% to 20% - Savitt says equity is only part of the full development funding mix. Aircraft development timeline: 10 to 15 years - Explains why aerospace requires patient capital. Average fund return horizon: 7 to 10 years - Used to explain venture capital mismatch with aerospace timelines. Typical business-traveler willingness to pay: 100% more for half the time at about $3,500 fare - Market research cited for premium travelers. Another fare point and willingness to pay: 55% more at about $5,000 fare - Shows elasticity for time-saving travel. Fuel burn examples: CJ3: 150 gal/hour; Challenger 300: 320 gal/hour; Gulfstream 450: 450 gal/hour - Used in environmental discussion before comparing with supersonic aircraft.

Pivotal Quotes: "Suppression of volatility protects the incumbents." — Host: Part of the argument that bailouts and easy money disadvantage younger generations. "We are developing the world's fastest, most sustainable supersonic commercial airliner called Overture." — Kathy Savitt: Defines Boom’s mission and flagship product. "The ultimate luxury is time." — Kathy Savitt: Explains why customers may pay premium fares for faster travel.

Implications: The episode suggests real wealth may migrate from traditional assets to scarcity-driven digital and high-utility innovation themes. For aerospace, Boom’s progress signals a possible revival of premium supersonic travel if capital, regulation, and sustainability align.

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