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The World’s Greatest Carry Trade May About To Be Unwound | Nicholas Glinsman

Nicholas Glinsman, veteran macro investor and co-founder at Malmgren-Glinsman Partners, returns to Forward Guidance to update his views on fixed-income and the economy. He argues that shorting the yen // buy non-yen-denominated assets trade, the “greatest carry trade in the world,” may be unwound as

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Executive Summary: Macro investor Nick Glinsman argues the market has become too optimistic on rate cuts and too complacent about fiscal and geopolitical risks. He expects higher-for-longer U.S. rates, more Treasury supply, sticky inflation, a capped stock market, and major spillovers from Japan’s yen-funded carry trade and Middle East escalation.

Main Topics: Treasury rally and overly optimistic rate-cut pricing (Priority: 5/5): Glinsman says the recent bond rally was driven by the Treasury refunding announcement and short covering, but believes yields have fallen too far too fast and the market is pricing an unrealistic March Fed cut. Sticky inflation and Fed policy (Priority: 5/5): He argues core and super-core inflation remain stubborn, financial conditions have eased too much, and the Fed is likely to stay higher for longer rather than cut soon. Fiscal deficits and Treasury supply (Priority: 5/5): The guest expects U.S. fiscal deficits to remain large or worsen, with more duration supply ahead from quarterly refunding announcements, limiting the case for lower yields. Equity market resilience but limited upside (Priority: 4/5): He thinks stocks can stay elevated if rates stay high but does not see much upside from current levels unless there is a recession; he is not calling for an imminent collapse. Japan as a global macro risk (Priority: 5/5): A major theme is Japan’s potential policy shift: ending yield-curve control and eventually raising rates could unwind a huge yen-funded carry trade, impacting global bonds, equities, and FX. Middle East escalation and oil risk (Priority: 4/5): He highlights underreported escalation around Lebanon, Syria, and the Red Sea, and says rising geopolitical risk supports oil as a hedge and could pressure markets. China de-risking and structural weakness (Priority: 3/5): He is bearish on direct China exposure, citing real estate weakness, balance-sheet recession dynamics, declining FDI, and continued de-risking by foreign firms.

Key Arguments: The bond rally is fragile: much of the move was short covering and illiquidity, not a durable shift in fundamentals. Financial conditions have eased substantially, which is stimulative for growth and inflation, so the Fed has little reason to cut quickly. A March Fed cut is described as "absolutely absurd" absent a huge unemployment spike, a collapse in CPI, or a bank failure. Treasury supply remains a problem; even after the recent refunding, future quarterly refundings are expected to increase duration issuance. The stock market may remain supported by easier financial conditions, but upside is limited because yields could rise again. The U.S. is unlikely to get fiscal restraint in an election year; spending and deficits may stay larger than consensus expects. Japan is the key hidden risk: if inflation forces the BOJ to end YCC and eventually raise rates, a massive carry trade unwind could hit global assets. Middle East developments are escalating faster than mainstream media suggests, making oil a useful hedge and a risk factor for bonds and equities. China is seen as structurally impaired by a real estate/balance-sheet recession, so the speaker would avoid direct investment there.

Data Points: 10-year Treasury yield move: Nearly 60 basis points rally - He says Treasuries rallied sharply over a couple of weeks after the refunding announcement and weak October bond prices. Treasury yield level: 442.5 bps on the 10-year - He cites the 10-year at 4.425% as evidence the bond market is pricing perfection. Fed cut pricing: ~35% probability of a March cut - He says the market’s odds for a March cut are too high. Short-end rate expectations: June cut pricing also viewed as too high - He says even June is an overly optimistic expectation for cuts. Inflation in Japan: A little over 3% - Used to explain why the BOJ may be moving toward ending YCC and eventually tightening. Japanese carry trade exposure: ~500% of Japanese GDP / about $20 trillion - He describes the consolidated Japanese government-linked balance sheet as a gigantic carry-trade-like structure. Japan FX move: Yen up 1.2% intraday, about 0.9% stronger later - He flags the yen rally as potentially important for global markets. U.S. unemployment: Sub-4% (3.9% cited) - He argues labor markets remain strong and are not pointing to an imminent Fed cut. U.S. inflation/real rates context: Core and super-core still sticky - Qualitative data point used to argue the last mile to 2% inflation is hard. Fiscal cushion at Treasury: $750 billion in the Fed account - He says Janet Yellen has a large cash balance to use as needed in an election year. S&P futures level: Around 4,570 - He says equities are near a level where upside is limited absent a major macro deterioration. Brent hedge trade: Deep out-of-the-money calls bought - He mentions a risk-controlled oil hedge amid Middle East escalation.

Pivotal Quotes: "“I’m not convinced that the Goldilocks soft landing is what’s going to happen.”" — Nick Glinsman: His core view on U.S. growth, inflation, and Fed policy. "“The idea that they’re going to cut rates in March is absolutely absurd.”" — Nick Glinsman: His strongest statement on market pricing for Fed easing. "“The Treasury market is priced for perfection and I don’t believe perfection has reached it.”" — Nick Glinsman: Explains his bearish stance on bonds and concern about future supply.

Implications: Listeners should expect higher volatility in rates and FX, with a risk that bonds reprice lower again. Global spillovers from Japan and geopolitical energy shocks could matter more than consensus thinks.

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