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Victor Haghani on Death of Random Walk, and Passive, Buybacks, and LTCM

Victor Haghani — founder of Elm Wealth, co-author of “The Missing Billionaires” and former founding partner of Long-Term Capital Management — joins Monetary Matters to explain why the stock market doesn't follow a random walk. Drawing on his new paper "Who Killed the Random Walk?", Vi

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Executive Summary: Victor Haghani argues that LTCM’s key lesson was not just leverage, but the importance of skin in the game, liquidity, tight stop-losses, and avoiding standalone leverage structures. He then explains his research on “Who Killed the Random Walk,” claiming stock markets are driven by extrapolators, static asset allocators, and supply-demand shocks—not pure random walks or only fundamentals.

Main Topics: LTCM lessons and risk management (Priority: 5/5): Haghani says the biggest lessons from LTCM are personal risk-taking, skin in the game, using tight stop-losses, and preferring relative-value trades inside large institutions rather than in highly leveraged standalone funds. Who Killed the Random Walk research (Priority: 5/5): He describes a model combining value investors, static asset allocators, and extrapolators/return chasers to explain excess volatility, momentum, booms and busts, and clustered volatility in markets. Momentum vs. extrapolators (Priority: 4/5): Haghani distinguishes binary momentum strategies from slower-moving return chasing. He argues momentum works because capital is smaller than the capital of extrapolators, allowing momentum traders to front-run predictable price effects. Passive investing vs. passive asset allocation (Priority: 5/5): He strongly defends market-cap index funds for stock exposure but criticizes static passive asset allocation (e.g., always 60/40) as unrealistic and market-distorting. Market expectations and U.S. equity valuations (Priority: 4/5): He says long-term expected U.S. equity returns are only about 6%, implying a low equity risk premium versus Treasuries, largely because of elevated valuations and static capital allocation. Earnings, buybacks, and market levels (Priority: 4/5): He argues individual stock prices reflect fundamentals well, but aggregate market levels are driven more by flows, buybacks, issuance, and investor behavior than by near-term earnings. Elm Wealth’s dynamic asset allocation approach (Priority: 4/5): He describes Elm’s low-cost, rules-based strategy: broad index exposure, dynamic tilts based on expected returns and momentum, and preference for liquid, tax-efficient assets.

Key Arguments: LTCM’s failure taught that leverage, financing risk, and lack of stop-loss discipline can turn a relative-value strategy into an existential threat. Running relative-value strategies inside larger institutions is safer because financing risk is lower and the activity is not forced to unwind in a crisis. The stock market is better explained by heterogeneous investors—value investors, static allocators, and extrapolators—than by a random walk. Momentum persists because extrapolators have more capital than momentum traders; if momentum capital became too large, the effect would weaken. Market-cap indexing is mostly harmless; the real problem is static asset allocation, which ignores changing valuations and risk conditions. Long-term U.S. equity returns are likely around 6%, which is only modestly above Treasury yields and reflects low expected equity risk premium. Aggregate stock-market behavior is driven more by flows, buybacks, issuance, and investor psychology than by short-term earnings alone. Individual stock valuations often remain rational because fundamental investors still dominate most of the cross-section, even if a few names get extreme attention. A practical portfolio should combine value and momentum, which Haghani says is the most robust approach supported by research.

Data Points: LTCM founding context: Founding partner - Victor Haghani is identified as a founding partner of Long-Term Capital Management. Research duration: 3–4 years - He says the “Who Killed the Random Walk” paper has been in development for three or four years. Journal acceptance: Accepted into Journal of Investment Management - He notes the paper has been accepted and is also on SSRN as a working draft. Stock market volatility vs earnings: About 2x more volatile - He cites the Shiller/Campbell result that stock prices are about twice as volatile as expected long-term earnings. Lookback period for extrapolators: 5 years (modeled with exponential decay) - He says extrapolators estimate future returns based on returns over the last five years. Expected long-term U.S. equity return: ~6% - He says consensus long-term forecasts for U.S. equities are around 6%. 30-year Treasury yield comparison: ~5% - He contrasts the 6% expected equity return with 30-year Treasuries around 5%. Expected equity risk premium: ~1% - He implies the risk premium over safe assets is only about 1% at current levels. Elm client assets in SMAs: ~$3 billion - He says Elm Wealth manages about $3 billion in separately managed accounts. Elm ETF assets: ~$600 million - He says the NYSE-listed Elm ETF has about $600 million in assets. Elm fee level: 12 basis points - He says Elm charges around 12 bps for its dynamic asset allocation service. U.S. equity weight in Elm ETF: <30% - He says the ETF’s U.S. equity allocation is below 30% versus a baseline near 40%. Baseline U.S. equity weight: ~40% - He references a baseline weight around 40% for U.S. equities. Buyback volume: >$1 trillion/year - He says companies have been buying back over a trillion dollars of stock annually. Market impact of $1T buybacks: 3–4% market move - He estimates $1 trillion of net equity buying could move the market up by 3–4%. Earnings growth figure mentioned: ~24% - He discusses blended operating earnings growth for the S&P 500 around 24%. NVIDIA revenue growth: 70–80% YoY - He cites NVIDIA as an example of exceptional current earnings/revenue momentum. Value of overall equity market exposure: 60/40 static allocation example - He uses 60/40 as the archetype of static passive asset allocation.

Pivotal Quotes: "“The biggest lessons are about personal risk-taking. The first big lesson has to do with skin in the game.”" — Victor Haghani: On the central takeaway from LTCM and risk management. "“I think the problem is passive asset allocation, not passive stock picking.”" — Victor Haghani: On his distinction between index funds and static 60/40-style investing. "“Momentum is the mother of all anomalies.”" — Jack / referencing Gene Fama: Used in the discussion of why momentum challenges the random walk hypothesis.

Implications: For investors, the key lesson is to separate stock selection from asset allocation. Haghani’s framework suggests broad markets are shaped by flows and behavior, so dynamic risk-aware allocation may matter more than consensus forecasting alone.

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