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You 2.0: Originals

What does it mean to be an original? As part of our summer series, You 2.0, we talk with psychology professor Adam Grant about innovators and the challenges they face. Adam gives his take on what makes an original, how parents can nurture originality in their children, and the potential downsides of

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Shankar Vedantam HostAdam Grant Guest

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Executive Summary: Adam Grant argues that originality is less about bold confidence than about incubation, broad experience, persistence, and many failed attempts. The conversation explores how originals generate more ideas, question assumptions, and are often reluctant risk-takers who are pushed into action by others. It also highlights barriers that keep women and minorities from sharing ideas, and how parents and organizations can better nurture originality.

Main Topics: What makes people original (Priority: 5/5): Grant reframes originals as cautious, fear-filled people who procrastinate, incubate ideas, and succeed through volume of attempts rather than innate brilliance. Broad experience and questioning assumptions (Priority: 5/5): Originals often draw from diverse experiences and challenge conventional wisdom, as illustrated by entrepreneurs who saw opportunities to lower glasses prices and reshape an industry. Reluctance, delay, and the value of waiting (Priority: 4/5): Many innovators hedge their bets at first, keeping day jobs or other commitments until fear of failing is outweighed by fear of never trying. Being drafted into leadership (Priority: 4/5): The transcript argues that many major originals are not self-promoters but people coaxed or drafted into visibility and leadership roles when their ideas mature. Creativity through many ideas, including bad ones (Priority: 5/5): Great originals produce more ideas, more failures, and more rough drafts; genius and mediocrity often coexist in the same creator’s output. Bias, silence, and unequal access to originality (Priority: 5/5): Women and racial minorities are less likely to have their ideas heard or rewarded, meaning society loses many original ideas before they are shared. Raising original children and organizational culture (Priority: 4/5): Grant recommends values-based parenting and organizational practices that encourage independent thinking rather than rigid rule-following.

Key Arguments: Original people are often procrastinators who use delay to incubate ideas rather than avoid them. The best innovators usually have broad, varied experience instead of narrow expertise. Risk-taking often starts with hesitation; people act when the fear of inaction becomes greater than the fear of failure. Originals commonly need to be drafted or encouraged by others before they step into leadership or public roles. The number of ideas matters more than the average quality of any one idea; originals fail more because they try more. Creative output is messy: the same person may generate masterpieces and bad ideas at the same time. Women and minorities often face extra backlash or credit-stealing when they speak up, which suppresses originality. Parents can foster originality by emphasizing values and purpose rather than imposing only rules. Organizations should seek hidden talent and silent contributors rather than only the most outspoken applicants. Too much originality can fragment action, but conformity carries the larger cost of lost innovation.

Data Points: Combined experience of founders: 60 years - The glasses-company founders had decades of combined experience wearing glasses, helping them question pricing and distribution norms. Years Phil Knight sold shoes before Nike: 7 years - Phil Knight sold shoes from his car while working as an accountant before starting Nike. Volume of musical compositions by major composers: Over 600 each, sometimes over 1,000 - Grant cites Bach, Beethoven, and Mozart as producing extremely large numbers of compositions, with only some becoming masterpieces. Number of brother pairs studied: Over 300 pairs - A baseball study compared professional brothers to examine birth-order effects on risk-taking. Risk-taking difference by birth order: More than 10 times - Younger brothers were more than ten times more likely to attempt to steal a base than older brothers. Duration of Lincoln’s deliberation: 6 months - Lincoln agonized for six months before signing the Emancipation Proclamation. Age of glasses as an invention: 800 years - Used to show how long-standing products can remain overpriced before innovators challenge them.

Pivotal Quotes: "I would say that I was totally wrong about what it takes to be original." — Adam Grant: Grant summarizes how his thinking evolved about creativity and innovation. "The greatest originals are the people who failed the most because they're the ones who tried the most." — Adam Grant: He explains why high output and repeated failure are central to originality. "The fear of failing gets overtaken by the fear of failing to try." — Adam Grant: He describes the psychological shift that moves people from tinkering to launching.

Implications: Listeners should value persistence, breadth of experience, and idea volume over flashy confidence. Organizations and families can unlock more innovation by reducing bias, encouraging voice, and rewarding independent thinking.

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