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Ep. 679 - Payoff Politics

The National Enquirer turns on Trump, Vox wants Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to run for President, and the Boy Scouts verge on bankruptcy. Date: 12–13-2018 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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The Ben Shapiro Show HostDonald Trump GuestAngela Rye GuestBernie Sanders Guest

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Episode Summary

Executive Summary: Ben Shapiro covers Michael Cohen’s sentencing and the National Enquirer/AMI non-prosecution deal as potentially damaging evidence in the Trump campaign-finance probe, then pivots to Trump’s Twitter defense and the political implications of possible impeachment. He also critiques Democratic resistance to border-wall funding, media bias, AOC hype, the Boy Scouts’ decline, and broader geopolitical and cultural dysfunction.

Main Topics: Michael Cohen sentencing and Trump legal exposure (Priority: 5/5): Shapiro argues Cohen’s plea and AMI’s cooperation strengthen the case that hush-money payments were tied to the 2016 campaign, while distinguishing potential campaign-finance violations from obstruction/perjury risks. Trump’s Twitter legal strategy and 2020 politics (Priority: 5/5): He criticizes Trump for publicly tweeting his defense, but notes the legal logic of blaming Cohen and framing the payments as non-campaign-related; he also discusses how looming indictments could shape the 2020 race. Border wall, shutdown politics, and immigration (Priority: 4/5): The episode frames Trump’s border-funding clash with Democrats as politically advantageous for Trump, while attacking Democrats for resisting border security and favoring expansive immigration benefits. Media bias and left-wing protectionism (Priority: 4/5): Shapiro uses examples from the Los Angeles Times, MSNBC, and other outlets to argue the media protect their own and excuse anti-conservative or left-wing misconduct. Rise of the Democratic left and AOC hype (Priority: 4/5): He contends Bernie Sanders-style rhetoric has become mainstream in the Democratic Party and mocks calls for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to run for president despite being constitutionally ineligible. Boy Scouts decline and institutional value drift (Priority: 3/5): He says the Boy Scouts’ financial troubles stem from abandoning their traditional identity and caving to progressive demands, not just abuse litigation. Geopolitics and Turkish actions in Syria (Priority: 3/5): Shapiro warns that attention on Saudi abuses has obscured Erdogan’s authoritarianism and Turkey’s looming operation against Kurdish forces in Syria.

Key Arguments: AMI’s cooperation with prosecutors is damaging because it suggests hush-money payments were made to influence the 2016 election, not merely as routine private settlements. The strongest legal risk for Trump may be obstruction of justice or perjury, not the underlying affairs or payments themselves. Trump’s public tweets undermine his defense by suggesting awareness and a reliance-on-counsel argument, but also create evidentiary and political problems. Impeachment is politically risky and does not necessarily help Trump; historical cases show it can harm the president’s party in later elections. Democrats are politically vulnerable on border security because most Americans support stronger enforcement and oppose welfare-based immigration incentives. The media systematically excuse left-wing misconduct and amplify conservative or Trump-related controversies, revealing ideological bias. The Boy Scouts’ crisis is presented as a consequence of abandoning core values and yielding to social pressure, which erodes membership and institutional trust. The Democratic Party has normalized Sanders-style redistribution and anti-billionaire rhetoric, while media enthusiasm for AOC reflects ideological fashion rather than merit. Turkey under Erdogan is portrayed as an underappreciated geopolitical threat, especially regarding Kurds and Syria.

Data Points: Michael Cohen prison sentence: 3 years - Cohen was sentenced in the federal case discussed at the start of the episode. AMI payment: $150,000 - Prosecutors said AMI made a payment connected to suppressing Karen McDougal’s story. 23andMe discount: 30% off - Advertisement for DNA kits through December 25. 23andMe reports: 90+ personalized genetic reports - Shapiro promoted ancestry and health insights from the service. Robinhood free stock: Apple, Ford, or Sprint - Promotion for signing up with the app. Boy Scouts current youth membership: more than 2.3 million - Referenced in discussion of the organization’s shrinking relevance. Sex abuse misconduct timeline: dating back as far as the 1960s - Boy Scouts lawsuits include allegations from decades ago. AOC age eligibility threshold: 35 years old - He highlighted that Ocasio-Cortez is only 29 and thus constitutionally ineligible. Ocasio-Cortez primary votes: 17,000 - He cited her congressional primary victory over Joe Crowley. Trump’s claimed wall height increase: higher than it is now - DHS memo said existing wall/fencing was extended upward rather than entirely new wall built. Tribune Publishing secret payment: more than $2.5 million - Referenced in the LA Times/Tribune anti-Semitism and secrecy discussion. Gold star families sent to Disney World: 650+ families - Gary Sinise Foundation charity example. Children of KIA service members taken to memorials: 100 kids - Gary Sinise Foundation trip to Washington memorials.

Pivotal Quotes: "I never directed Michael Cohen to break the law." — Donald Trump: Trump’s tweet summarizing his defense after Cohen’s sentencing. "It is not about securing the borders. It is about xenophobic, racist, bigoted beliefs that he holds." — Angela Rye: Shapiro played this as an example of media/left framing of Trump’s border policy. "We live in a nation owned and controlled by a small number of multi-billionaires whose greed, incredible greed, insatiable greed, is having an unbelievably negative impact on the fabric of our entire country." — Bernie Sanders: Used to illustrate the increasingly radical economic rhetoric of the Democratic Party.

Implications: Shapiro argues Trump faces real legal and electoral risk from the Cohen/AMI scandal, while Democrats risk overplaying anti-wall and anti-Trump politics. He says media bias, institutional decline, and progressive radicalization are reshaping politics and public trust.

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