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ROLLUP - VCs Abandoning Ethereum | Macy's & NFL NFTs | ConstitutionDAO vs Citadel | Binance Arbitrum

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Executive Summary: Bankless’s Thanksgiving weekly roll-up covered crypto markets, Ethereum’s strengthening fundamentals, the role of Layer 2s, a major Twitter dispute over Ethereum’s scaling path, and a wave of mainstream NFT and institutional adoption. The hosts argued that decentralization must remain the priority, even if it means slower scaling, while highlighting how rollups, fee upgrades, and network usage are rapidly improving Ethereum’s long-term outlook.

Main Topics: Ethereum market performance and scaling momentum (Priority: 5/5): The hosts reviewed ETH/BTC strength, DeFi TVL, Layer 2 growth, and Ethereum’s TPS visualization as evidence that Ethereum is increasingly scaling through rollups rather than L1 expansion. EIP-1559 and Ethereum fundamentals (Priority: 5/5): They discussed fee savings, rising miner revenue, burn dynamics, and all-time-high hash rate, framing EIP-1559 as a major win for users and ETH’s monetary narrative. Crypto Twitter drama over ‘abandoning Ethereum’ (Priority: 5/5): A central segment unpacked Su Zhu’s criticism of Ethereum, the backlash from the ETH community, and the broader clash between short-term narrative trading and long-term decentralization. Mainstream adoption: NFTs, sports, media, and metaverse (Priority: 4/5): The episode highlighted NFL, Macy’s, Time, Adidas/Sandbox, and music tokenization efforts as signs that NFTs and crypto branding are entering mainstream culture. Institutional and infrastructure releases (Priority: 4/5): New releases included Binance integrating with Arbitrum, NFT collateralization via D-Fragment, oracle reputation tooling, Lattice/MetaMask support, and Aave Arc institutional onboarding. Macro and money: fiat instability and Bitcoin news (Priority: 4/5): The hosts contrasted crypto with deteriorating fiat systems, focusing on the Turkish lira collapse, El Salvador’s Bitcoin city, IMF criticism, and Bitcoin mining imagery. Raises, jobs, and the crypto economy’s expansion (Priority: 3/5): Several major fundraises and job openings were discussed as evidence of continued capital formation and hiring across crypto-native companies.

Key Arguments: Ethereum’s long-term value comes from preserving decentralization, even if that means higher short-term fees or slower changes on L1. Rollups and Layer 2s are the practical scaling path; they are where user activity should migrate. EIP-1559 has already produced real user savings and burned large amounts of ETH, strengthening ETH’s monetary properties. Short-term traders and fund managers often promote chains based on narrative momentum rather than durable fundamentals. Many ‘ETH killer’ chains trade off decentralization for throughput, and should be evaluated honestly on that spectrum. Crypto should be judged by what it enables for future generations, not just by immediate profit maximization. NFTs and tokenization are becoming mainstream through sports, entertainment, and consumer brands, which could onboard new users to crypto. Mainstream adoption often begins with low-friction sidechains or specialized environments, then gradually connects to broader crypto infrastructure. Fiat currency debasement and monetary mismanagement are part of the core motivation for crypto adoption. Permissioned products like Aave Arc can exist on top of permissionless systems without undermining the base layer. The crypto market is creating new career paths and capital markets around tokens, protocols, and media rights.

Data Points: Bitcoin weekly move: Down about 5% - Bitcoin fell from around $60,000 to about $56,600 over the week. Bitcoin price: $56,600 - Approximate current BTC price discussed in the market section. Ether price: $4,232 - ETH was described as slightly up on the week and holding above $4,000. ETH/BTC ratio: 0.074 - Ratio was said to have risen on the week and remained near local highs. DeFi TVL: $106 billion - Total value locked in DeFi remained above the $100B mark. DeFi Pulse Index (DPI): $348 - DPI started the week at $355 and ended at $348. BED index: 165 - The Bitcoin-Ether-DeFi index fell from 172 to 165 on the week. Layer 2 TVL: $6.5 billion - Value locked across Ethereum layer twos continued to rise. Layer 2 TVL weekly change: +20% - Reported week-over-week growth in L2 value locked. Bobit Network TVL change: +180% - Named as a major weekly L2 TVL winner. Loopring TVL change: +25% - Another strong weekly performer among L2s. Immutable X TVL: $237 million - Immutable X was up nearly 50% on the week. Diversify TVL: $59 million - Diversify rose 23% on the week. Ethereum TPS (overall ecosystem): 122 TPS - Displayed by eth tps.info including sidechains. Ethereum TPS (rollups only): 5.28 TPS - TPS figure when sidechains were excluded. Ethereum TPS after update: 16.15 TPS - Rollup-only throughput increased during the segment as the site updated. EIP-1559 savings: $844 million - Users have saved this amount through base fee refunds since activation. Miner revenue change: +33% - Dollar-denominated miner revenue increased despite fee-burning changes. ETH burned offset: 56% - EIP-1559-related burns offset more than half of new coin issuance. ETH burned since EIP-1559: 1,000,000 ETH - Major milestone reached earlier that week. Time since EIP-1559: About 111–112 days - The hosts referenced the number of days since the upgrade launched. Ronin DEX volume: $1.8 billion - Volume moved over the past two weeks on Axie Infinity’s Ronin DEX. Ronin TVL: $1.3 billion - Total locked value over the prior 30 days. Ronin volume: $7.5 billion - Reported cumulative/rolling volume figure for the Ronin ecosystem. SAND price: Over $7 - The Sandbox token surged sharply after metaverse and Adidas-related hype. SAND all-time high: $7.81 - The token hit a new peak during the week. Turkish lira vs USD: 0.078 USD per lira - The lira had fallen from about $0.135 earlier in the year to about $0.078. ConstitutionDAO auction amount: $42 million - Ken Griffin outbid the DAO and won the constitution. ConstitutionDAO amount raised: About $40 million - The DAO’s pooled bid amount was described as around this figure. Aave Arc institutional onboarding: Fireblocks integration launched - Institutional clients could begin accessing Aave Arc via Fireblocks. Gemini valuation: $7.1 billion - Post-raise valuation mentioned alongside the $400M financing. Gemini raise: $400 million - New capital raised by Gemini. Royal raise: $55 million - Series A for the tokenized music platform. MoonPay raise: $555 million - Fiat on-ramp raised a large round at a $3.4B valuation. MoonPay valuation: $3.4 billion - Post-money valuation cited for the raise. MoonPay revenue: $100 million YTD - The company was described as profitable and generating this revenue so far that year. Binance Smart Chain validator complaint: Public GitHub criticism - Validators alleged poor engineering practices and weak process on BSC. Uniswap Polygon vote: 99.96% yes - Snapshot vote strongly favored deploying Uniswap V3 to Polygon. Uniswap Polygon yes votes: 256,000 UNI - Tokens voting in favor of deployment. Uniswap Polygon no votes: 101 UNI - Tokens voting against deployment.

Pivotal Quotes: "The idea of sitting around, jerking off, watching the burn, and concocting purity tests while zero newcomers can afford the chain is gross." — Su Zhu: His inflammatory tweet criticizing Ethereum’s fee dynamics and community discourse. "Abandoning decentralization is the biggest sin that you can commit in this space." — Ryan Sean Adams: A central rebuttal in the Ethereum Twitter drama, arguing that decentralization is the core value. "We are fortunate to be alive during a pivotal moment in human history. The choices we make here and now will have outsized impact upon future generations that use these systems." — Ryan Sean Adams: The hosts’ closing argument for prioritizing long-term protocol design over short-term gains.

Implications: Ethereum’s future likely depends on rollups, not L1 compromise, while crypto adoption continues to spread via NFTs, games, and institutions. The episode argues the industry must resist narrative-driven centralization if it wants a truly open financial system.

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